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February 26, 2009

Brave and combative

Michael Totten offers an eye witness account of Christopher Hitchens and the Battle of Beirut (via Ace).

“My attitude to posters with swastikas on them,” [Hitchens] later told Alice Fordham at NOW Lebanon, “has always been the same. They should be ripped down.”

Posted by Ghost of a flea at February 26, 2009 10:14 AM

Comments

His attitude to posters with the hammer and sickle, on the other hand...

Posted by: Varenius [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 26, 2009 02:13 PM

I disagree ... your headline should probably read "futile and reckless," and perhaps "inebriated."

Posted by: Bill from INDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 26, 2009 06:29 PM

futile and reckless," and perhaps "inebriated."

Better than supine, calculating and submissive and slanderous. Bill, you have done good reporting. This is not an example..
I'll take 1000 drunk Hitches over one obama.

Posted by: meleager99 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 27, 2009 07:11 PM

"Better than supine, calculating and submissive and slanderous. "

1. I'm not sure what you mean by that line.

2. I'm not "reporting."

3. I didn't think the topic had anything to do with the relative value of Hitchens vs. Barack Obama.

4. I've always been a fan of Hitchens, and still am.

5. That said, I would not walk into a neighborhood where half the locals are Syrian neo-nazis and start flipping them off, endangering the people I was traveling with, any more than I would walk into certain parts of DC and start critiquing criminal behavior. And if someone I was with did it, I would probably knock them out for risking my safety as soon as I was done beating/running from the anti-semitic goons they just riled.

I've witnessed plenty of bravery, and there is a subtle yet unmistakable difference between what that looks like, and what pointlessly reckless looks like. At the very least I find the glorification of the latter (mildly) discomfiting, if not shocking.

http://abumuqawama.blogspot.com/2009/02/hitchens-in-beirut-michael-totten.html

Posted by: Bill from INDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 27, 2009 09:57 PM

(btw, I wrote my comment before seeing that I came to the exact same conclusion as the link I provided above ...)

Posted by: Bill from INDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 27, 2009 10:02 PM

1. I'm not sure either - drunk blogging i guess.
But if you look at the words, they each mean something VERY SPECIFIC. Supine: to lay down to our enemies, calculating: to suppose that we have words instead of blows to exchange with our enemies,submissive - as in submission to totalitarial ideologies; slanderous(or is it libelous- I cant remember- to attribute the rightous actions of Hitchens to a drink or three.

we are done.

Posted by: meleager99 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 1, 2009 10:53 PM

spell check on:
totalitarian

"Pointless reckless(ness)"
Save us from the meek and the eviquivical. Who will stand in the arena?

Posted by: meleager99 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 1, 2009 11:10 PM

equivical

Posted by: meleager99 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 1, 2009 11:17 PM

So, since you are labeling my joke about Hitchens possibly being inebriated (a cliched joke, to be sure) as "libelous," (slanderous is incorrect) I can only assume that you're also referring to me via the other adjectives: "supine, calculating and submissive." Noted.

Regarding "who will stand in the arena?", I can only wonder what your idea of an arena is, and what you have done that required the qualifying fortitude, aside from commenting on blogs.

We're in agreement on one thing, however - "we're done." Cheers.

Posted by: Bill from INDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 2, 2009 12:22 AM