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June 06, 2007

To Lord Nelson


Gentlemen, to Lord Nelson.

Posted by Ghost of a flea at June 6, 2007 06:57 AM


The clip and the ship are both beauties. I am pleased to have visited Victory back in '04. Ah, what a time it was.

I'm early on in "Fortune of War", btw.

Posted by: The_Campblog [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 6, 2007 07:30 AM

(with raised glass) The Royal Navy.

Traditionally "Ourselves" for the Wednesday evening toast, but as I'm not RN, that doesn't seem right.

Posted by: Chris Taylor [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 6, 2007 10:19 AM

I just raised an Old Thumper to the great man.

BTW you played Age of Empires III. Its actually rather good fun.

Posted by: Andrew Ian Dodge [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 6, 2007 04:41 PM

"You must consider every man your enemy who speaks ill of your king; and . . . you must hate a Frenchman as you hate the devil. "

Posted by: Gorthos [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 6, 2007 06:37 PM

Lord Nelson, mutineer and war criminal. He ignored orders to cease fire, and made Copenhagen surrender by threatening to burn captured ships with the POWs on board.

Posted by: styrheim [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 7, 2007 11:10 AM

So how's that Muslim thing working out for you in Copenhagen? Enjoy!

Posted by: Ghost of a flea [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 7, 2007 11:15 AM

Somebody remind me which Geneva Convention (1864, 1907, 1929, or 1949) was in effect at the Battle of Copenhagen (1801). Silly me, it was the Articles of War (1757).

Article 9 does prohibit the stripping, pillaging, beating and ill-treatment of a prisoners taken on a prize, but no one was actually set aflame, and Nelson was surely well-aware of the Articles.

He sent a note to the Crown-Prince threatening to burn the prizes, and the Crown Prince caved to the threat. Remind me again where, in the Articles, threatening to harm prisoners is prohibited? Oh that's right, it isn't. Maybe the Crown-Prince wasn't too well-versed in British naval regulations. Like some others I could name.

Posted by: Chris Taylor [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 7, 2007 06:41 PM

@Muslim thing:
Denmark put up more of a fight than Norway did. But I really think they lost. I mean, when I visit a mosque in Egypt, I take off my shoes. And there is no 'intelligentsia' in Egypt insisting that my culture is to wear shoes on any occasion, and I should be insulted if someone tells me to take them off. But in Scandinavia, we have just that kind of people: They practically tell Muslims to be offended.

@war crimes:
The border between right and wrong is blurry indeed, and if you keep too far to the right side, you lose. But I just wonder: If Nelson was bluffing, was his 'mutiny' merely staged to make his bluff more credible?

Posted by: styrheim [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 8, 2007 05:26 AM