September 29, 2003
No freedom without sacrifice
The trailer for The Return of the King is supposed to go on-line at the New Line site today. It is not there yet...
And then... This appears to be a 9.0 mb full-screen Quicktime version.
And then... Ok, not full-screen but there it is. Totally freaked out now due to glimpses of Minas Morgul and a certain cave-dwelling critter. Aragorn's St. Crispin's Day speech gives me chills.
I see in your eyes the same fear
that would take the heart of me.
A day may come when the courage of men fails,
when we forsake our friends
and break all bonds of fellowship.
But it is not this day.
This day we fight!
And then... And the answer is...
Posted by Ghost of a flea at September 29, 2003 09:28 AM
Is that Aragorn? Or Theoden? I think the latter.
Posted by: *** Dave at September 29, 2003 11:05 AM
Hmm... I am trying to find the piece the Peter Jackson film has re-written from the book. This passage has Éomer speaking in The Two Towers. One trouble is that Jackson's version has already moved and re-attributed this or that speech and he may have done so again. I shall keep looking. That said, I am pretty sure the Jackson version has Aragorn giving the speech I quoted...
Wide wonder came into Éomer's eyes. 'Strider is too poor a name, son of Arathorn,' he said. 'Wingfoot I name you. This deed of the three friends should be sung in many a hall. Forty leagues and five you have measured ere the fourth day is ended! Hardy is the race of Elendil!
'But now, lord, what would you have me do! I must return in haste to Théoden. I spoke warily before my men. It is true that we are not yet at open war with the Black Land, and there are some, close to the king's ear, that speak craven counsels; but war is coming. We shall not forsake our old alliance with Gondor, and while they fight we shall aid them: so say I and all who hold with me. The East-mark is my charge, the ward of the Third Marshal, and I have removed all our herds and herdfolk, withdrawing them beyond Entwash, and leaving none here but guards and swift scouts.'
Posted by: Nicholas Packwood at September 29, 2003 11:17 AM
It just didn't sound like him (especially in contrast to his other non-bellowing lines in the trailer). Could be Eomer. Could be Theoden. Only one I'm sure it's not is Gandalf. :-)
Posted by: *** Dave at September 29, 2003 01:15 PM
I thought it was Theoden, though I wasn't sure, so I had the unhappy duty of watching the trailer a half dozen more times to see :) I'm still not positive it was Theoden, but leaning in that direction.
Posted by: Ith at September 29, 2003 04:34 PM
I too struggled through watching the trailer about ten times and I still think it was Aragorn. I agree it does not sound like him but I think this is due to the character assuming a more "regal" tone and so forth. There is also a quick cut between the end of the speech to Aragorn turning on his horse and raising his sword at the front of the hoste.
Still, I could be totally wrong...
Posted by: Nicholas Packwood at September 29, 2003 04:37 PM
I just saw the American one (I'd only seen the one that showed up last night from Japanese TV) and I agree, it's not Theoden. The sound was better, and I caught the flash of the horse turning in this one too.
Need to watch it a few more times.
(lots of goosebumps)
Posted by: Ith at September 29, 2003 11:05 PM
Okay, having watched it again last night (maxxed screen), I'm going to agree it's not Theoden. But it's not Aragorn, either. It's Eomer. (The figure turning his horse is hard to discern, but I think it's Aragorn, given the device on his shirt, but I'm not convinced it's he who is actually speaking).
Well. We'll see.
Posted by: *** Dave at September 30, 2003 09:09 AM
It probably is Eomer. The speech echoes his speech from the book and it makes sense for him as a leader of Rohan coming to the aid of Gondor. Also, the voice is right.
Posted by: Nicholas Packwood at September 30, 2003 09:21 AM
It is Aragorn. Viggo Mortensen's voice tends to sound different when he shouts... compare his tone of voice in the trailer to "By nightfall these hills will be swarming with orcs..."
Posted by: Pheeup at October 2, 2003 03:44 AM
It is definately Aragorn who is speaking. Even though Eomer may say it in the book it doesnt necessarily have to be him. They changed many things that occur in the movie compared to what is in the book. For example on Frodo's last leg to Rivendell it is not Arwen who finds them and she does not ride with Frodo. In fact Frodo actually rides by himself... Have a think about that. The voice is definately Aragorn's. The accent isn't as strong as Eomer's and if you are that much of Lord of the Rings fans you should be able to tell Aragorns voice by now.
Posted by: i^rule^them^all at December 2, 2003 12:40 AM
Ummm...peoplez i just watched the trailer and it is without a doubt Aragorn. If you watch the trailer properly and open your eyes, you will notice that when 'the voice' shouts "This day we fight!" You see Aragorn saying it! Well problem solved thanks to my great eagle eyes.
Posted by: i^rule^them^all at December 2, 2003 12:51 AM
Thanks there I.rule.etc. ... We were discussing the first version of the trailer where it is not clearly Aragorn speaking. The latest version makes it quite obvious.
Posted by: Nicholas Packwood at December 2, 2003 04:02 AM